Talk Travel with Cheryl with Guest Patricia Murphy, Marketing Smarty Pants and Florida Association of Veterans Owned Business (Orlando Chapter)

Cheryl

And okay, good afternoon, everybody. Cheryl Echevarria here from Echevarria Travel. This is Friday Talk Travel with Cheryl, ending the week of July 17th, 2020. Some travel news, if you have been watching, you know, that the final two theme parks over at Walt Disney World opened today, that is Epcot at Hollywood Studios.  If you have been following me; if you have not been following me, Nelson and I were up at Epcot and Hollywood Studios back in January, this year. We went on the new Millennium Falcon ride. We did of course the tour of the gondolas that go from Hollywood

Studios over to Epcot with the various resorts in between. That’s fantastic if you like that kind of thing, it’s less hassle than taking the buses around to different theme parks and resorts inside Walt Disney World. So that it’s a fantastic, cool place to relax while you were at Walt Disney World.

Also, currently Ms. Corona is still out there. I mean, things are getting better, things are opening, St. Lucia and Barbados opened, Mexico. It has always been open, but it’s all depending on the resort your going to and the destinations. 

If you’re planning on traveling, please reach out to a reliable travel expert, whether it’s myself or somebody else you’ll use even locally. because we service all 50 States.

 To have the latest on the new openings, the coronavirus testing that you’ll need and everything else, most destinations that we are seeing, especially in the Caribbean and Mexico, you’re going to the resorts, but a lot of the excursions are not open yet; because they’re either in phase one or phase two of their opening. Like in your own state, there’s phase one and phase two.  Florida has gone back a little bit because we’re down a really big hotspot, but again, until all this, until we have a vaccination out there until things change everything, it’s just as you know, a game in progress.

Let’s take it with a  grain of salt then, you know, relax and take it easy. Well, it’ll be back to normal soon. Um, I noticed that by being inside, but Hey, get out, take a walk. And I have to say, I’m going to bring out my guests in a minute, but I’m going to be focusing on, and I’ve been doing that the last couple of weeks, is traveling within the United States. We have such a great country here in the United States. We forget that we have so many places to visit and see that we never knew. 

I lived all my life in New York. Some of my favorite places to go were the Catskill mountains, Niagara Falls, go to the Statue of Liberty, going down Broadway, walking around Manhattan; and one of my favorite places is the Bronx zoo in New York. I went there almost every summer to visit my grandma and stuff; one of my favorite zoos to go to. And if you’re an animal person and then right here in Florida, we have got Jacksonville, the oldest city in America. We have Key West on the other end, almost 90 miles from Cuba. We have both South  Coast,  West, and East coast full of beaches. So let’s remember where people say staycations. What about those visiting some place here in the US that we’ve never been to. 

And as I mentioned, we’re planning on Alaska next year. So if you haven’t signed up yet, our Alaska cruise, it’s a seven day round trip out of Seattle, Washington, you do not need a passport for that. So we’re going to Juneau, Skagway, and so many other destinations. With Princess Cruise line, the use of bringing the destination on the ship as well, so they’re going to have many exciting activities, including, they have partnered with the Animal Planet, Discovery Planet, National Geographic. So whether or not you’re into all that exciting educational things going on, they have something for everybody for all ages.

 So, and then also we’re going to the Grand Canyon in March of 2021. And again, I’m going to go to Canyonlands; Bryce and Zion; the majesty herself grand Canyon for March. 

So now is the time to make your deposits for this, reach out to us at (407) 910-6469, or set up your virtual consultation with me at If I’m talking too fast for you all the description of today’s show will be in the comment area, both on the podcast and on YouTube, and we do have this transcribed for you as well. 

So without further ado, I’m going to bring on my guest, ms. Patricia Murphy. First of all, she is a veteran. I am so glad to have our veterans on the show. She also owns her own business, it’s called Marketing Smarty Pants. And women own businesses we are the greatest out there where some of the best entrepreneurs out there. And she’s also the president of the Florida Association of Veteran Owned Business. What a long list of things that we’re going to be talking about today. Patricia, you there? Welcome to Talk Travel with Cheryl.

Patricia

Great! Thanks for having me. I’d actually like to start talking about Alaska actually if that’s okay.

Cheryl

That is fine. You can talk about whatever you like.

Patricia 

I don’t know if we’ve, you know, we’ve talked before several times, but I don’t know if I told you where I was stationed and when I was in the air force, I was actually in Alaska for five years.

Cheryl

Awesome, whereabouts in Alaska were you?

Patricia 

Well, I was stationed in Elmendorf, which is Anchorage, but you know, when you’re in Alaska, you just have to go explore also all sorts of things. 

I grew up right here in Florida and, so that was quite an experience moving, from Florida and then to Texas for training, and then moving on to Alaska; from there and experience, you know, just this amazing change in nature, and culture even.  So anytime, you know, you mentioned an Alaska cruise, I just tell everybody, you know, just, you have to go

Cheryl 

Exactly! And I haven’t been myself, and I want to see the glaciers. I want to hear to calving, I want to see the Orcas. I’m very into animals, and the flora and fauna, and it’s the first time, so we’re not going up by Denali, but it’s good with the inside passage and Glacier Bay and all that. So everybody gets a little something, and then hopefully we can go back and explore even more, maybe on the land trip as well. 

Patricia 

Yeah, I mean, always go back, I mean, you could go back every year, every couple of years and never see, you know, the same thing twice and not get bored. There’s so much just with nature alone, not to mention the culture and the history that’s available and the diversity. I think most people don’t realize how diverse Alaska really is. So, if you’re looking for cuisine, like, you know, authentic cuisine, like Korean cuisine, or, you know, all these other ones, they have those in Anchorage and, and those restaurant owners come from those countries, they migrate over. It’s not very far, and they go there and start a new life.

And so it’s very rich and diverse., and you know, in that regard. The nature is just breathtaking, absolutely breathtaking. You know, how big mother nature is, and I cannot express that enough. I think going to Alaska is probably the closest thing you can do, the closest to visiting another country you can get without leaving the actual United States.

Cheryl

Exactly. And like I was saying, we have so much here. I mean, the world has so many interesting things to look at, and see and explore, but so many people forget what we have right here in our own country that people, “Oh, I want to go to Europe, I want to go to Asia or I want to go to the Caribbean”. That’s great. I love to send you there, but let’s remember where we come from and a beautiful, you know, from sea to shining sea.  

Alaska was really Russia. It wasn’t ours until 50 years ago. 

Patricia 

Right.

Cheryl

But think about that as well.

Patricia

And even inside of Alaska, the terrain is so vast. You have, you know, fishing towns, you have, you know, beaches, you have mountains, you have wilderness, you have kind of planes land, which is where like Tundra is not really fun to walk, but, um, you know, there’s all this diversity in the wildlife. 

I mean, in the winter, I have sat out in the middle of nowhere in a truck over the Tundra and looking, and on the distance, you see all this movement on the horizon, and you grab the monoculars, you’re like, “What is that”? And, you know, without the binoculars, it just looks like herds of cattle just going, and going, and going, but you pick up the binoculars and you see it’s thousands and thousands of caribou. And you go to look a little, you know, you take the binoculars and zoom in a little more and you’re like, why are these guys running? And you see, Wolf’s a pack of wolves chasing them. And it’s so surreal; because you’re sitting in this truck literally in the middle of absolutely nowhere, King salmon, Alaska, nothing happening whatsoever. It’s 30, 40 below,  nothing. There’s nothing going on, and, but like,

Cheryl

I am going to take you with me. I gotta play pack you in the suitcase and take you with me.

Patricia

I would love to go. It’s just phenomenal! It’s just absolutely phenomenal. And you know, another thing you don’t realize is you know, bald eagles. You’ll see bald Eagles there, as often as you see a Crow here. They’re just everywhere, absolutely everywhere.

Cheryl

When I was doing the talk show with princess cruise lines. My business development managers that I worked for years with he’s on furlough because of all the Corona stuff going on, but he’s been there 40 something times. And he says, every time you go, you something else is new there that you have not seen before. 

Patricia 

Yeah, yeah.

Cheryl

From the Indians and, he said he went one time and they had just killed the Whale and eating, you know, celebrating, catching the whale and everything, and it’s a big to do there.

Patricia 

 It is! 

Cheryl 

It’s, you know, the survival of the fittest up there. So we, we take everything,  we have the supermarkets right here and we don’t realize sometimes there are people out there hunting for breastfeeding the whole town.

Cheryl

Exactly. That’s one of the things they’re going to bring on the ship, the puppies, and the first lady that actually won the 12:19 [Inaudible] rod. So there are so many things that are being planned that I’m very excited about, and we’ll be posting more about the trip as we move forward. 

So anyway, moving on, I want to talk about, first of all,  marketing smartypants. How long have you been social media?  After you got out of the military, what made you decide to go towards social media and being in the business you’re in now?

Patrica 

That’s a good question. So when I got out of the military actually got out because my, you know, my daughter was born and at the time the air force was still very heavily burdened with six-month rotations in Saudi Arabia. So after the first Gulf war, the majority of the ground troops came home. Well, the air force was left after the Iraqi war, so all of our bases were in Saudi Arabia and once the war was over, we were still patrolling the no-fly zone over Iraq, and so that was all air force supported.  So when the majority of those ground troops came home, the air force was still supporting that mission, you know, up until nine 11. So our troops had these six months and airplanes as well, six-month rotations.

 And, you know, in my timeline, in my tour and where I was at with my service and my daughter was born, I knew that as soon as I came off of maternity leave and got back into that mobility status; if I reenlisted; and as soon as I went into my mobility status, after having her that I was, it was going to be time for me to go. 

So I really was facing leaving y a six month, 12-month-old baby behind for six months at a time.  And it really, being a new mom, my first child, it really wasn’t something that I wanted for her, so I made the decision to separate. 

So I was home with the kids for years, and homeschooled them, and then went to college, after my youngest was born, and I used my 14:29[Inaudible]. I got my bachelor’s degree in marketing. I absolutely fell in love with marketing and in that arena and decided to kind of choose a specialty. Digital marketing is fairly easy to do from home and or at least remotely, so I don’t have to be, you know, face to face to people all the time in order to do that. 

And I would just reach out to a few business owners that were my friends, and I said, “Hey, you know, you want some free marketing help”? And of course, they’re like, “Yes”. so I kind of dive with both feet in and just learning how to market, and kind of what to do, and, a lot of on the job training. 

So, you know, marketing degree helps you understand and develop strategies in that, but then you learn the execution of it, you know, day to day, with hands-on. So since, you know, the last seven years or so, when I was doing that, you know. Social media is really taken off, which is excellent. It’s a great tool, so I’ve just really spent the time doing that

.I started my business about five years ago and kind of been doing it part-time on and off, till about the last, you know, 18 months, 12 months, and really been taking off the last 12 months.

I love working with small businesses. I have a passion for them for lots of reasons. One of those reasons really is, you know, small businesses have an excellent why. They all have, they have a passion for the most part. They do what they do because they love it. It’s a dream for them for the most part. So, they always have a great story that’s easy for me to connect to and in turn, makes it very easy for me to enable their clients to connect with them on social media or, their website or, their messaging or whatever that is.

 I’m a big fan of a great story. I’m a big fan of, you know, a reason behind your business, and you know, it’s easy to connect with, it’s easy to communicate that too, so that’s why I love small businesses. And really small business owners are kind of some of the most innovative, and dynamic people I know, so I just like hanging out with them.

Cheryl 

Exactly. We like hanging out with you too. What do you think today with so much social media out there from Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, a small business like myself, what are some of the mistakes that somebody goes out and does without realizing, you know, they’re doing everything, but they’re not getting the response that they want. What kind of mistakes are people making when they’re doing social media, without somebody like you to direct them?

Patricia

I mean, I find that some of the big, and I hate to call it a mistake. I would say, if you’re going to label something, actually a mistake, I would say your biggest mistake is not doing anything, that would be an actual mistake. Being able to improve and change things, that’s a different, completely different category. So some of my biggest tips for small businesses don’t feel like you have to do everything. Somebody else may tell you completely differently, and that’s fine. You don’t feel like you have to do everything because you’re going to reach a point of diminishing returns if you spread yourself too thin. So really evaluate in your social media marketing, you know, how much of it do you want to do on your own? If you know, you just don’t have the, it’s not feasible for you to hand any of that off to somebody else to execute well, then streamline what you’re doing.

If you don’t like Twitter, don’t hang out on Twitter. If you love LinkedIn, that’s where you need to be the most engaged, that’s where you need to be the most active. So double down on the one or two platforms that you like and really double down. Be active, engage with people, spend the time to engage in conversations, and make comments. Leave the politics alone. There’s no reason to start a fight with anything, and then in that talk about your why, talk about your reason, your why behind your business. 

So what I’ve been talking to my clients recently about is, Hey, you know, what you do in your business is not who your business is, right? You know, what do you stand for? What you do is different. The same thing as an individual person, right? Who I am is not what I do in my business. It’s different. Does that make sense? Am I explaining it? 

Cheryl

It makes a lot of sense. 

Patricia 

So some businesses are very, you know, they’re champions of kindness or they’re champions of giving back, you know, they’re champions of making a difference in the lives of the people around them, and if that’s who they really are, talk about that. Maybe they just happen to sell insurance or just happen to fix cars, but that’s not who they really are, so start talking about, you know, who you really are as a business. You are a champion for other small businesses. You like to promote those other small businesses and that’s who you are. You happen to be a travel agent, that’s the service that you execute on, but that’s not necessarily who you are first. Does that make sense? 

Cheryl

Exactly, exactly! The other thing I wanted to mention, especially you being a veteran zone business, not only a woman, but you’re a veteran that owns her own business; and you’re part of the organization called the Florida Association of veteran-owned businesses here in Orlando. And I like our listeners to know more about that because I have a lot of veterans that listen to this show. I would have one find out more about it.

Patricia

So FAVOB, we operate very similarly, so we’re a 501 C three six, so we’re nonprofit, organization, but not tax-exempt, meaning, so it’s structured like a chamber of commerce. So if you join a chamber of commerce, you know, that expense for joining is a business expense, but it’s not a tax write off.

The reason why FAVOB exists is number one, we believe that veterans make the absolute best business owners and employees that exist.  We find that there’s a very big disconnect between, what the capabilities of a veteran have. Anybody who serves, we have this set of capabilities and in part largely, our society lacks the understanding of the breadth and depth of our capabilities just across the board. kind of any senior NCO or an officer that gets out of the military.

They’re a COO in a box, they’re a chief operating officer and a box. I mean, I’ve got friends who you spent 20 to 30 years in the military, they had teams that were global. They managed, you know, multimillion-dollar budgets, but they come over a year and they apply for a job at a corporation and those hiring folks are scratching their head going “Well, what do you know about our business”? They know people, they know logistics, they know systems, I know processes, and they know them on a grand global scale. We make excellent leaders, so for all those things, we personally think that our veterans are phenomenal, the data supports it. 

Florida has over 185,000 veterans on businesses right here in the state of Florida.

We generate annual sales or income of $57 billion of revenue here in the entire state of Florida. So, you know, we really are, we’re kind of a big deal, and we want to become a force to be reckoned with because it’s good for the community, right?  We feel like if we can band together, help each other grow businesses, educate veterans who are getting out of the military, “Hey, owning a business is an absolutely viable option for you, and here’s how you can do it. Oh, here’s a readymade support system to help you do that”. 

And then also, you know, working towards getting the state of Florida, local municipalities and major corporations to have procurement programs for businesses. So we want the state of Florida, we want local business owners and larger corporations, and small municipalities to choose veteran-owned businesses when they have a project that needs to be done.

we say what we’re going to do, we share when we say we’re going to do it, and we get it done every time, and that’s the strength of who we are. Not to mention the fact that I happened to love to hang out with veterans. The comradery that we have together is phenomenal. 

And the growth that FAVBOB has experienced in the last 12 months is amazing, and specifically during the pandemic, so that’s really a success story.  When this pandemic hit in March, we were on a conference call that the state committee was on a conference call,  and kind of at the end, I was like, “Guys, what are we going to do”? Like moving forward. We know we’re kind of paused. We don’t know what that looks like. You know, what are we going to do to help everybody feel like they’re still connected? And the idea was like, well, you know, let’s explore some virtual events. And over the course of, you know, three to four weeks, we put all of that together, and we rotate through the different chapters, you know, responsibility for organizing those.

 As a matter of fact tomorrow, my chapter is hosting our lunch and learn, which were the power hour, one hour lunch on zoom, which you can register, and that’s going to be really great. I have a wonderful panel lined up some folks from the Orlando business journal, and I have three business owners that can talk about, one is going to talk about, you know, how the VA helped him in his business, and why he’s successful, and thanks to, you know, the VA and how they’ve supported him. 

And then I have two business owners that we’re going to talk about their successes, failures, and struggles through their pandemic and kind of how they’ve navigated that and where they’re at right now.

So I think those stories are of strength and resilience is extremely important to talk about. And, so I’m really, I’m excited about that. But, over the course of just a few months, we now have over 200 paid current members. We have three chapters. 

Cheryl

That’s fantastic!

Patricia

At the beginning of March, we had one trustee at the trustee level, we now have 14. Every time, we have sponsors for our virtual events and I mean, it really has just exploded in this environment. And honestly, I was really worried that we were going to be in big trouble, through the course of this, without having a face to face events. I was very, very worried, but I couldn’t be more proud of my Orlando chapter, the state board, how we’ve all pulled together, and really just knocked this out of the park, and once again reinvented ourselves. 

So we have really big lofty goals. We want to be a statewide organization. We have an interest in Ocala, Jacksonville, South Florida for additional chapters. We looked for those to join and come online later this year. 

So, as I said, I mentioned there are 185,000 veteran-owned businesses. I want to get to know every one of them. I think every one of those should be FAVBOB members, let’s pull together. We know what it’s like to be operating a team. We know team, well-organized teams can do, we can accomplish when we take over the world, right? 

Cheryl

Yeah! Let’s all pull together and serve together. I grew up in that area because my dad was a Vietnam vet. Thank God, you know, knock on wood, he came home okay. But I grew up around with aunts and uncles. All my aunts and uncles that were not blood relatives were part of the VVA. 

I grew up with world war II veterans and, Vietnam veterans, and even today, my grandchildren, every one of them has served in the armed forces. So I’m very, very, not only proud of you, but proud of the people I’ve been around my whole life, that has educated me on, not only being different but to be a part of being a United States citizen, to protect our country, to give up part of ourselves for others. So, especially like you said, with this pandemic, sometimes I get very aggravated with when you see things and hear things, people doing wrong and your, the politics of everything going on with it that you just don’t want to shake everybody and say, “Hey”. That’s why I come on, and I say, look, it’ll all be okay, let’s relax. Let’s calm down. 

I always say to my guests, “I’m the fun one”. We’re here to have fun when we talk on my show, nothing scripted, nothing is, everything is laid back. We want it to be that way, because once we get off this program, we go listen to the news again, and we go outside and it’s like, ha all over again. But it’s very rewarding to listen to what your organization’s doing. 

And the thing is also, I mean, veterans, our government is actually seeing this as well, because I knew, grew up growing up with the Vietnam veterans, and the disabled war veterans, and the world war II veterans, they didn’t want to give them a chance. They gave them money to go to college and buy a house, but you didn’t do anything else with it.

You can get a decent job. You couldn’t go, you know, unless you, I mean, thank God my dad had the opportunity to go back to college, be a businessman. But then at the same time, it’s like there weren’t many opportunities to be an entrepreneur. And I’m glad these doors are opening for our veterans and maybe getting more of them off the street and not look like beggars anymore, and that they’re actually giving back to society. Even though you gave up your lives to Russ, you shouldn’t have to put all that out there, but you should have it if you want it.

Patricia

Right! Exactly! And, I just want to make sure everybody knows that you don’t have to be a veteran to join FAVBOB. If you just believe in our cause and or you want to do business with veteran-owned businesses, you know, this is really the organization to jump in on.

Cheryl

30:15 [Inaudible] you’re working with veterans and it’s no better.

Patricia

Yeah, it’s really neat. You know, we all have amazing stories. And one-third of my business comes from contacts I’ve made through FAVBOB, and that story can be repeated over, and over, and over again.  And likewise, there are so many cool stories of business owners inside of FAVBOB working together.

 So I just did a rebrand for a client a couple of weeks ago, who is a FAVBOB member, and it’s been such a pleasure to work with them, and it’s just been really, really great. And I, you know, I see stories over, and over, and over again where FAVBOB members get together and work together and they’re doing business. It’s really, it’s really cool to see.

Cheryl

What don’t you put out information about the organization now, a website phone number, how to reach out to you, both with the business and with FAVBOB?

Patricia

So FAVBOB’s website FAVBOB dot net, or you can just Google FAVBOB and that puppy will pop right up. Oh, we’re all over the place on the web. Our Facebook page is FAVBOB of Orlando or Tampa space because they are really great locations to get some information. So yeah, and LinkedIn, if you’re active on LinkedIn, go like us on LinkedIn, we get a lot of activities, there at about 2000 followers on our LinkedIn page, that one’s pretty, pretty good as well.

All of our events are on our website, FAVBOB dot net, and, yeah, not too hard to find or find me on Facebook, I’m always talking about them.

Cheryl

What about marketing smartypants, where are your clients? Where’s your home base? Where are your clients? So we know who’s ever listening to those where they can reach out to you?

Patricia

My clients are in orange County and Bravard, and I actually had one out of state as well, so I mean, I’ll talk to anybody. And so my website marketing is smartypants.com, or you can find me on Facebook, I’m around there and LinkedIn too.

Cheryl

I will definitely put in the resource section for this show, all the contact information. We’re also part of BNI members, so BNI members reach out, you know, we’re an international organization and we would love to hear referrals from you and cross chapters and all that. I’m here to make sure that Patricia gets the shout out. I also want to find out, you have how many children, three?

Patricia 

 Four.

Cheryl

Four children. So any plans to travel, any bucket lists that you guys want to save and go to a dream trips that you’re interested in doing, or any special places that you and the family have gone to in the past?

Patricia 

Yeah, lots of those. So as far as his bucket, my two older kids were born in Alaska, so mommy would love to take them back someday. I think that would be really fun. They were super little when we left. And I think that would be really a blast to take them back and let them, let them see that as far as you know, and of course my younger two boys as well, but definitely my older two.  I love, love to experience that with them. 

And as for the really great places we’ve been before when my kids were a little younger and I was homeschooling them, we did a few road trips and the Southeast part of the United States and some of my favorite places.  I love history, so st. Augustine is by far one of my favorite places in the whole world. It is the oldest city here in the United States. I really loved Mount Vernon, that was amazing.

 I’ve actually been to some of the Confederate POW camps, at Andersonville, or I think it’s Andersonville prison there, and Alabama that’s or Georgia, that’s a very humbling experience to be there, and read the stories and find out what happened. And you just need to go, it’s incredible.

 Ruby falls in Tennessee, we went there and that was really incredible. The kids saw that, and then I’m a big fan of Washington DC. I love all of the museum stuff. We took the kids there on the mall. They were little, I got to tell this story. I love art and all this other stuff, my kids are just bucking wild, and they would much rather go run around. So we go to this and, the museum, and, we’re looking at all the arts, and I just wanted 10 minutes to stand in front of his Rembrandt, right? My oldest son, who I think he was like, I don’t know, nine or eight, nine, whatever at the time was literally having a meltdown. He was becoming annoyed and I’m like, I just want 10 minutes,

Cheryl

That must be the most beautiful picture in the world by Ram brand?

Patricia 

He is literally melting. This is the mom’s life I got, you know,

Cheryl

Oh, goodness!

Patricia

I really am looking forward to getting back to DC at my leisure walking the mall and,

hopping and seeing all of those things.

Cheryl

35:53 [Inaudible] I mean, I’ve been to when the Vietnam wall went up when my dad went. And of course, when they put the Martin Luther King tribute up there and on the disabled war veterans. I haven’t seen that one yet, but the Smithsonian, and like you said, Mount Vernon, and so many of the things that,  it’s like going to New York, you can’t see every single museum. You can’t see every single park, every time you go someplace. 

Even here in Orlando, there are so many things that I’ve yet to see that I want to see, and it would dry out our own backyard. And that’s what I try to tell people, “look, even if you don’t have thousands of dollars to do something”. You may want to reach out to me traveling. What can I do in Florida, or what can I do in Orlando?  And I can give you some ideas, but, you know, even just taking half an hour or an hour drive, just going somewhere and you find something to do, it’s something new and interesting to do,

Patricia 

Right! Or stop and take the time to read all those little historical plaques that are all over the city, just stop and read them because so much history happens right here.

Cheryl

We don’t realize how much has happened in 244 years of our country. And it happens so fast, and the speed. I mean, I watched where my husband and national geographic, you know, the history of Greece and that’s four or 5,000 years old; and we look at our country that’s 244 years old, and we’ve gone through so much in such little time that it just goes by like the speed of light.

Patricia 

Yeah. There’s so much richness and depth to our history.

Cheryl

Exactly! I think if more of us, and I always try to look at the bright side of everything, and more of us just look into that, I think there would be less fighting, less arguing, fewer people hating each other to read exactly what happened, and look at things with a different perspective that we can understand what’s going on with life.

Patricia

Right!

Cheryl

 I mean, everybody has their own thing, and I’m not a prejudiced person. I’m not against anybody, but I think if we just learn to read and understand what exactly went on, I think we would all understood each other better in life.

Patricia

Right. Right. No, and I agree.  I think to find ways to come together and get to know what, you know, understanding is always the goal, right? and that’s the hardest thing to accomplish. And, you know, the more that we travel and we see historical events, and we learn more about that and kind of experience what other people have experienced, we can gain a greater understanding. And then at the same time, be more empathetic with somebody else’s perspective.

Cheryl

Exactly!

Patricia 

their system, their culture.

Cheryl

 Exactly, and that’s what a recent Echeverria travel, loves doing groups. We get love getting all different types of people together and learn from one another, not just the destination, but learning from each other. 

So I want to thank Patricia for coming on today. Please reach out to me so I could refer her to you. Any questions, 4079106469 for Echevarriatravel.com and we look forward to seeing you next week, where I’ll have guests, Ariane Lewis from club med on. 

Thank you, Patricia, for coming on and thank you for serving in your enforces and talking to us about your business and about FAVBOB. Thank you so much. 

Patricia

Thanks for having me. 

Cheryl

Have a great day.

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